Hi, I am Mareen, a then 23-year-old female photographer from Germany.

This tumblelog started with a question I raised in my personal tumblelog in 2007.
The idea is:

I would like to know why people feel the need to compare me to "real" photographers.
Comparing not in the sense of style or something, but as a different demographic (like, 35+ and male).

Just want to save the answers and think about it.

I have had several encounters where clients treated me like a child or thought I was the know-it-all intern of Mareen Fischinger.

So far, everyone here is stating the problem. Need to find a solution. Because letting your work speak for itself only works when the people you are supposed to deal with know it. But then it works really well! :)

More email or repost responses welcome. I will post them here. myfirstname.fischinger @ google’s email service

Waiting for the real photographer

  • Me, female, 24: I am booked by your company to take photos of the interior of your store.
  • Woman: Well yea, but you really don't need to. You see we have no time for this yet?
  • Me: My plane is not leaving until later tomorrow, I can drop by when you think everything is ready.
  • Woman: Didn't you already take enough pictures?
  • Me: Not of the finished place, obviously. I came from the other side of the country for this. You can imagine this is not just some playing around for me, right?
  • Woman: We already have a photographer for the store.
  • Me: Booked by your company? Are you sure that is not me? Sounds like my job.
  • Woman: Someone will take photos of our opening party later tomorrow. He is also going to photograph the store.
  • Me: I think taking pictures of the party is something else than capturing just the architecture. I did all the coordination with the layouters in Hamburg, the people in Darmstadt and Bonn. They know I am taking these photographs.
  • Woman: But he will do it. He is a real photographer, you know, a real one. He will come later today.
  • Me, patiently waiting until this woman has finished her sentence: I find it funny whenever someone starts talking about real photographers. Does that mean he is male and over thirty? What else makes him real?
  • Woman: Oh, ha, you really don't need to feel bad about this. [smiles, pads me on the back.]
  • Conversation is interrupted by some event person, I walk off:
  • [Turns out, the »real photographer« was a photo guy with party photo equipment and didn't even want to do anything else]
The job in Yemen is off. The client said you cannot go there as a woman. The police would probably show up if a female human got to hold a camera and tell a man how to put up the lights.

Frank on the phone just now.

(via my other blog)

Email from Alex

If you turned up to a photo shoot I was some way involved in commissioning, I’d be like ‘holy fuck that’s Mareen motherfucking Fischinger’ And I’d say your first name  as  mah-reen just for the fun of it. Basically, it’s all relative. You take amazing  photos and that’s all that counts, right?

(Though it’s understandable being annoyed at such a situation you find yourself in.)

From today. I guess I am the photographer.(Taken by my assistant Stefan.)

From today. I guess I am the photographer.

(Taken by my assistant Stefan.)

Email from Sorin

You’re a male photographer! 

[…]
I like some of your photos, I dislike some of them. But judging is always a matter of taste and mood. What is constant in your work and I appreciate very much is your professionalism. Your professionalism is something that transcends genre, age or clients.

[…] I think this whole conversation about tagging people, about a gender capability to create is in vain. Sometimes it generates only collateral damage. Photography work is like in any other industry, people will try to create barriers to entry on different basis. But you know what you’re doing. […]

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By saying “you’re a male photographer” it sounds like you’re not over it, Sorin!

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Sorin: “By saying, ” you’re a male photographer!” the intention was to de-stereotype (if I can say that…) you. :)”

At the shoot for a campaign

  • (Handshakes.)
  • Female client / facility management (ca.50): Hello, my name is A. Nice to meet you.
  • Mareen: Mareen Fischinger, hello.
  • Female agent: My name is C., from the agency P.
  • Mareen: These are Stefan, assistant, and Jenny, intern.
  • Stefan/Jenny: Hi.
  • (Some small-talking between agent and client, while Mareen instructs Stefan and Jenny with putting together certain pieces of equipment and makes a phone call.)
  • Mareen: Okay, I would suggest we go upstairs first?
  • Female client: Ermm, what is your job here by the way? Are you an intern, too?
  • (Everyone awkwardly looks at each other, noone laughs.)
  • Female client: Assistant?
  • Mareen: ... Who do you think was going to take the photos?

Email from Rociel

I know you pretty much since I got fast internet about 2 years ago, and I got to know you through your fotoblog. (Well, your pictures + your comments, but which were often no longer than 1-2 sentences. I like your tumblr now) I had pretty much no idea about photography or photographers; you gave me my first impression and thus make me compare other photographers to you. You could say, I’m kinda Mareen-biased.

At first I was amused when I read this post, but now I’ve realized there’s more to it than that. And when I saw this tumblr, I found it… really hilarious!! SORRY! I know the way people react must be super annoying to you, but just the thought of people seeing you as the know-it-all intern and thinking “What is this girl doing with the camera!?? Mrs. Fischinger should totally HIT her.” makes me lol so hard.
Maybe you just belong to this gang of cool young creatives, the new generation (wooo!).
In fact, in my mind photographers are casually dressed FH students who have iPhones and MacBooks and drink Starbucks Coffee; and when I read comments on your Flickr, I think “What are all these old geezers doing here!? PERVS.”
Also, the name “Mareen” must imply something weird or not serious to not-Germans.

Just let your portfolio speak for yourself! (or go buy a big fat gold chain with M.F. on it.)

Meeting talk.

  • Girl Photographer: My daily rate is at between xxx-xxxx depending on the usage. I could offer you xyz for all photos including editing and basic post-pro.
  • Client: Oh haha, wait! This is how much I had to pay last time I hired a real photographer to shoot! And this guy knew what he was doing...
  • Client: I don't want to offend you or your work, but you must understand. I will give you half of what you are asking.
  • (...)
  • Girl Photographer: I am not one of the cheap "conveyer belt standard shooters", people hire me because they actually like my work and want their product displayed in a certain way.
  • Client: Don't get me wrong, I do believe that you can take good pictures.
This topic reminds me of the eighties tv-series “Remington Steele”. Unfortunately it is a very old problem. And no, I’m not recommending you do something similar. elbflorenz reblogged

Remington Steele wikipedia info